Day off tomorrow!

[cybermule]

Oof! I'm bored. Today is full of difficult people and tedious meetings. On the bright side, the sky (above the hideous concrete university buildings) is quite attractive. Kind of grey and gold marbling.

Never really noticed the sky until about a year ago, when I decided to start looking up rather than down.

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[kidkarrot.livejournal.com]

It seems I forgot to add the word largely before independent in my last comment and not before "go total primal", but that happens sometimes when I try to think and type at the same time, even if I know what I'm trying to say. So, that being said, the real statement should have been:

However, I encapsulate what the universe does to change in my point, and that is largely independent of perspective because most of the said changes...aren't ever going to affect one on the conscious level.

You're right in that change does require perspective to be observed, but we can't observe every change. I'm willing to bet we don't see even a quark-sized piece of the pie of all changes that occur between any two time points (I don't deny change requires time to occur, for it absolutely must.). Hence, for me, for any perspective to exist on a change, the change must be observable to begin with.

Boredom to me is a reaction based on a personal choice not to like or enjoy doing something
You say this like there's always a choice to like or enjoy doing something, then quickly state that no one can stand SPAM.

I say this because I have never been bored automatically. I either like doing something or I don't, and the reaction I give takes some amount of conscious processing (i.e., a choice). However, maybe there is something to be said for unconscious boredom causing change, which is a topic I will have to further mull over. For the conscious side, boredom occurs when I am forced to do something I dislike and there are no "serious" breaches of my personal ethics (such as killing a person). So, that's why I say the universe is driven by change and boredom is a choice of a reaction to that change. Issues that I feel severely violate my ethics provoke an interested reaction (an interest in preserving my values), not a bored one.

The SPAM thing was just to end my 'abusive' argument on a light note and demonstrate the major source of evil that it is. Some high school buddies and I have traded cans of SPAM around on our birthdays since 1993 as gag gifts, under the mutual agreement of never exposing the masses to new levels of nausea simply to satisfy curiosity whether or not SPAM has a half-shelf-life. Of course...we also happen to work for good in the name of evil, so any means to our ends are valid with enough threatening humor about SPAM! ;)

[fyatuk.livejournal.com]

that happens sometimes when I try to think and type at the same time

Happens to the best of us on numerous occassions. That's why its the readers responsibility to "read what we mean and not what we write" *grin*

Hence, for me, for any perspective to exist on a change, the change must be observable to begin with.

Would make sense when taking Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle into account (if I have the right principle). You cannot observe without changing, but without observation does it really change? If you observe a change did it only happen because you were observing it or would it have happened if it could not have been observed?

All change has a cause, the question is what is the cause. The base cause of anything CAN be drawn back to boredom (in a roundabout way, sort of a six degrees from Kevin Bacon kinda thing), but then what caused the boredom? It could have been a choice (and would be in the vast majority of instances).

I think through this discussion we've ended up showing that neither change nor boredom is the core principle of the universe, but CHOICE. CHOICE seems to be the root of everything from conception until death.

I say this because I have never been bored automatically

I never have either. I choose to be bored often because it gets me to do things I would otherwise never do. There are somethings that I disliked immediately and irrevokably, but I'm only bored with those when I want to be, otherwise I find a way to make it entertaining if unwanted.

The SPAM thing was just to end my 'abusive' argument on a light note and demonstrate the major source of evil that it is.

I figured it something like that. I used to have a 30 MB hardrive full of saved SPAM/chain letters/etc until it died.

Anyway, I hope you haven't been taking this too seriously since my arguments were supposed to have been taken in jest (but I did make a few good points in there somewhere). I just love the fact that I can argue/debate anything well!

[cybermule.livejournal.com]

Of course...we also happen to work for good in the name of evil, so any means to our ends are valid with enough threatening humor about SPAM! ;)

Monty Python fan?

[kidkarrot.livejournal.com]

Yes I am, but that is not why I invoked the power of SPAM in this 'battle'. I could say the same thing about Michael Bolton music, a date with George Bush in drag, or Fortran as the only permissible programming language out there. And when in doubt, there is also the mohawking of redheads, especially of heretics!

[cybermule.livejournal.com]

but that is not why I invoked the power of SPAM in this 'battle'

Ah - the "look! A three-headed monkey" technique :) What's all this about mohawking heretic redheads? Reprimands have been issued, there's an amnesty on henna, we'll have no trouble of that kind here...